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Free independence is not definable

Abstract:
Free independence is an important tool for studying the structure of operator algebras. It is natural to ask from the model-theoretic standpoint whether free independence is captured well in first-order model theory via the notion of a definable set. We prove that pairs of freely independent elements do not form a definable set in the sense of continuous model theory, relative to the theory of both C∗ -probability spaces and tracial von Neumann algebras.
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Accepted
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Peer reviewed

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University of Oxford
Division:
MPLS
Department:
Mathematical Institute
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ORCID:
0009-0007-4947-5831
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University of Oxford
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MPLS
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Mathematical Institute
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ORCID:
0000-0002-5168-6095
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Institution:
University of Oxford
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MPLS
Department:
Computer Science
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Institution:
University of Oxford
Division:
MPLS
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Mathematical Institute
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Institution:
University of Oxford
Division:
MPLS
Department:
Mathematical Institute
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ORCID:
0000-0003-1256-1086


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Funder identifier:
https://ror.org/0439y7842
Grant:
EP/X026647/1


Publisher:
Mathematical Sciences Publishers (MSP)
Journal:
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Acceptance date:
2026-02-16
EISSN:
1944-4184
ISSN:
1944-4176


Language:
English
Pubs id:
2413313
Local pid:
pubs:2413313
Deposit date:
2026-05-01
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